'Chinese Democracy' was the sixth studio album from Guns N' Roses, released on November 23, 2008, and it was their first studio album since the 1993 covers album 'The Spaghetti Incident?', and their first album of original studio material since 'Use Your Illusion' I and II came out in 1991. It languished in development hell for eight years, delayed by personnel and legal problems, label interference, and the perfectionism of vocalist Axl Rose, and it was the first Guns N' Roses album without Izzy Stradlin, Slash, and Duff McKagan. After the Use Your Illusion Tour ended in 1993, Guns N' Roses spent several years rehearsing ideas for a new album, but several members left following creative and personal differences with Rose, and no music was released. In 1998, Rose, keyboardist Dizzy Reed, guitarists Paul Tobias and Robin Finck, drummer Josh Freese, bassist Tommy Stinson and multi-instrumentalist Chris Pitman began writing and recording new songs, originally intended for a 1999 release. The album was recorded and rerecorded, and delayed multiple times, while the line-up shifted numerous times, incorporating guitarists Buckethead, Richard Fortus, and Bumblefoot and drummers Brain and Frank Ferrer. The band recorded over 50 songs, intending to release multiple albums, but with costs reportedly exceeding $13 million ($21 million in todays terms), it became the most expensive rock album ever produced.
'Chinese Democracy' missed it original release date of March 2007, eventually appearing in November 2008, but when it arrived it received generally favourable reviews, achieved international chart success, and sold over one million copies in Europe. Writing and recording had begun in 1994, but most of the material was scrapped, as Rose had become obsessed with electronica and industrial rock, particularly the work of Nine Inch Nails, and wanted Guns N' Roses to move towards a more contemporary musical direction. Other members did not agree, causing a rift, and Slash left in 1996 following creative differences with Rose, being replaced in January 1997 by former Nine Inch Nails touring guitarist Robin Finck. Duff McKagan, who had recently become a father, left in August 1997, frustrated with the lack of progress, and more line-up changes followed, so that by early 1998, Guns N' Roses comprised Rose on vocals, Stinson on bass, Freese on drums, Finck on lead guitar, Tobias on rhythm guitar, and Dizzy Reed and Chris Pitman on keyboards. By mid-1999, Guns N' Roses had recorded over 30 songs, and the album was tentatively titled '2000 Intentions'. In November 1999 they released their first original song in eight years, with the industrial metal song 'Oh My God' featuring in the film 'End Of Days', although it received mixed reviews from critics. In early 2000 the album was nearly complete, but after Rose hired Queen producer Roy Thomas Baker to replace original producer Sean Beavan, he was persuaded to do re-recording work on the entire album.
In February 2001, Jimmy Iovine, the head of Geffen Records, asked Tom Zutaut, whom the label had fired two years previously, to help Guns N' Roses complete 'Chinese Democracy'. Zutaut estimated that Guns N' Roses had 50 or 60 songs in development, and he went through each with Rose, trying to decide which were worth finishing, and during his time with the band they completed versions of 'The Blues', 'Madagascar', 'Chinese Democracy' and 'Atlas Shrugged'. In November 2002 it was announced that the album would be released by June 2003 and that there were only "a few odds and ends left to do", but by mid-2003, Guns N' Roses had reportedly started rerecording the re-named 'Chinese Democracy' again, and by 2004 Geffen had removed 'Chinese Democracy' from its release schedule and withdrawn funding, stating that it was now Rose's obligation to fund and complete the album. Rose held listening parties in several New York bars in 2006, showcasing ten new songs, and in October Rolling Stone said the album had a firm release date of 21 November 2006. Rose recorded the final vocal tracks in January 2007, and mixing had begun, with a planned release date of Christmas 2007, but in January 2008, rumours arose that 'Chinese Democracy' had been handed to Geffen but was delayed because the label and Rose could not agree on the marketing, and it was finally released on 23 November 2008.
By the time 'Chinese Democracy' was released, only three of the 14 songs had not been leaked or played live, and this continued after its release, with around 120 demos leaking online in 2019. Apparently Zutaut had allowed a storage unit containing 19 CDs of recordings to expire, its contents were auctioned off, and the winner sold them to a fan, who circulated them online. Some tracks had been completed, with 'Atlas Shrugged', featuring Brian May on guitar, being cut at the last second because of CD playing-time constraints, while other songs mentioned by those involved in the recording that did not make the final album include 'Oklahoma', 'Thyme', 'The General', 'Elvis Presley And The Monster Of Soul', 'Leave Me Alone', 'Ides Of March', 'Silkworms', 'Down By The Ocean', 'Zodiac', 'Quick Song' and 'We Were Lying'. In the first of two posts from the band I've collected some of the best recordings from the leaked tracks, posted here under their original title of '2000 Intentions'.
Track listing
01 Madagascar (demo)
02 Atlas Shrugged
03 Perhaps
04 Shankler's Revenge (instrumental)
05 Chinese Democracy (demo)
06 Prostitute (demo)
07 Tonto
08 State Of Grace
09 Catcher In The Rye (demo)
10 Real Doll.com
11 Silkworms
This post just threw me like Michelle Yeoh flipping realities in Everything Everywhere All At Once back to 6 years ago when Uncle Dan and I 'collaborated' on a remaking of the UYI duology sessions into three thematically interesting albums, with Dan's accompanying 'historical' notes where and how these albums came out and reactions, and CD because of the Gordian Knot of it not being, as I deemed the group at the time, the only tribute band to have an actual member of the group they are a tribute to LOL, a 'real' G N' R album, we binned it off as an Axl solo album instead, since not much of it harks back to anything close to prime G N' R, so these posts sort out as the demos for that solo album, in that shifted memory LOL
ReplyDeleteI was really disappointed with "Chinese Democracy" when it came out, maybe this will be better sounding than the actual release.
ReplyDeleteIn so far, nothing here may change your opinion of CD, if anything these demos show the uneven road Axl dragged everyone involved on against better judgment, as I said about the UYI thing above, if you take the name off the album, it *is* a mediocre and long-past-best-date album by almost a decade by the time it emerged, but at least it isn't a *G N' R album*, instead it's Axl's SMiLE LMAO
ReplyDeleteyeah, non of it is redeeming of the CD release, it still is a disappointment considering the peaks GnR have reached previously
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